Submitted by Elaine Magliaro
Recently, the NRA posted a video titled Everyone Gets a Gun on YouTube. In the video, Billy Johnson, one of the gun organization’s commentators, said that “competency with a gun should be a ‘necessary skill’ for children to be able to advance to the next grade in school, just like reading and writing.” Johnson argues that U.S. gun policy should be driven by the “need” people have to use guns.
Johnson:
Gun policy driven by our need for guns would insist that we introduce young people to guns early and that we’d give them the skills to use firearms safely. Just like we teach them reading and writing, necessary skills. We would teach shooting and firearm competency. It wouldn’t matter if a child’s parents weren’t good at it. We’d find them a mentor. It wouldn’t matter if they didn’t want to learn. We would make it necessary to advance to the next grade.
Johnson feels that students who aren’t proficient with guns skills should be retained and not allowed to advance to the next grade. Great idea…huh? Maybe gun skills should be part of the new Common Core standards? Whaddya think?
NRA News Commentators | Ep. 78: Billy Johnson “Everyone Gets a Gun”
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NRA Commentator: Kids Should Be Good With A Gun To Advance In School (Talking Points Memo)
NRA Commentator: Kids Should Be Required to Learn How to Shoot a Gun in School (Slate)
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Elaine,
What do I think? Profanity, obscenity, and vulgarity …
Blouise,
Although I am a 2nd Amendment supporter (for purely historical and Constitutional reasons), I have to agree. Children should not have gun training as an educational requirement via public schools. It’s the three R’s, not the three R’s and S&W. What would be infinitely more beneficial?
Make civics a required and tested course for advancement instead of dropping it from the curriculum like most schools have.
Will they be issuing assault rifles like laptops so every child will have an equal chance to practice and score well? Will each class room have an ammunition allowance or will teachers be expected to pitch in a little for class room supplies? Do you think we should add a shooting component to the ACT and SAT. Will colleges and universities have to continue testing and training for all students to keep their federal funding, or can they drop the requirement for students who are legally adults?
And if this is a good idea for students then shouldn’t we have a similar requirement for adults – at least for parents of students?
There is just no telling were a good idea will lead.
Blouse,
Some folks are obsessed with guns! Too bad they didn’t feel the same way about literature, art, music, the sciences.
Bigfatmike,
You have posed some pertinent questions.
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When I first saw this I laughed and laughed thinking it was just some over-the-top Jon Stewart parody thing wondering how they come up with these crazy ideas. I found out it really was an NRA release. I have stopped laughing. What the hell is happening to our country?
Mary,
“What the hell is happening to our country?”
Good question!
there used to be marksmanship programs in schools and rifle and pistol teams. Shooting is a sport as much as volleyball or tennis so why shouldnt it be in public schools? Skeet and trap are great fun as is target shooting.
Too many nattering nannies.
I agree shooting is a sport. And there may be communities where sport shooting could be implemented with much support.
But requiring shooting in schools seems to raise many questions – in addition to the irony of a school requirement implemented by those who so often champion freedom, free markets, and the market place of ideas.
BTW if shooting is so desirable to some parents there is nothing to prevent them from starting shooting teams outside the school system. The communities with a demand for that kind of sport might even work through the NRA to bring it about.
More and better civics classes would be cheaper, and result in less deaths.
The point of the NRA is not to educate but terrorize you into buying ever more guns. It’s going to be terribly difficult for any Second Amendment remedies to be effected in the era of the NSA, drones, and the blessed unitary executive, praise be. The idea here is to instill that terror at a young age, and this is antithetical both to education and problem-solving on any scale.
For the sportsmen, my only advice is this: don’t go hunting with Dick Cheney. Otherwise, be safe.
bigfatmike:
I say let the local communities decide to have shooting sports or not, you cannot force a school to do something the local community doesnt want.
bigfatmike:
as we move toward statism it behooves us to have a well armed society ready to die for the fatherland. Zeig heil baby.
The last 13 years have not been kind.
“as we move toward statism it behooves us to have a well armed society ready to die for the fatherland”
Well maybe. But, I think eastern Europe and the demise of the Soviet Union demonstrate that if about one third of the population just says ‘no, I’m not going to do it anymore’, you need far fewer guns.
As long as we have the vote and courts that work reasonably well, why would anyone even be thinking about the second amendment except in terms of personal self defense.
I would much rather see 80% of the population registered and voting than talk about the second amendment.
If people don’t like tax rates, drones, NSA, police swat teams or anything else – then get out there and vote.
bron,
The NRA commentator is suggesting that gun competency should by mandatory–and that students should be required to prove themselves proficient with gun skills in order to advance to the next grade. Sounds to me like the NRA commentator is a gun-loving nattering nanny who would like to impose his idea on other people’s children.
Elaine:
if they are, you are right.
Elaine,
My opinion of your education Elaine, & not that I hate you, on the contrary, I like something about you, but you have had to failed every history & civics class you’ve ever had or should have & would have had I’d have been your teacher.
I have no idea who taught some of you people this Karl Marx crap, but I find it odd & interesting at the same time as I never had any one that was promoting this failed Commie/Nazi crap at the schools I attended as they were all American schools.
Elaine, the Jews have a saying: ” Never “”Phking” Again”!!!
You walk into a Nazi Death Camp disarmed if you like, as many of us witness reforming today here in the US. The wise will not.
Anyway, you should be able to get the point… No thank you on your advise.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/auschwitz-photos-infamous-work-will-set-you-free-sign-stolen-from-nazi-death-camp/
Elaine,
Keep every thing you’ve learned & hold it dear, but I suggest you seek out 2 or 3 credible teachers that preaches against everything you believe from your other teachers.
This way you’ve at least shopped the issues. Maybe this isn’t the country for your what type of believes? I don’t know.
Or maybe you’ll decide to embrace being a real American instead of opposing it?
Enjoy the songs anyway.
Readers,
I could have been a history teacher had I wished to be, but other things came up.
Now, I like many others hated what is taught as history, the 1600, 1700, 1800 blah, blah, blah, who gives a crap the exact year any more then what the S&P 500 closed at 4.3 years ago.
But if I was a History Teacher I would use this video of Sam Kinison as a model to work history into a class.
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2024193602_federationnraxml.html “The Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle has called for the resignation of a National Rifle Association lobbyist who reportedly linked gun control to the Holocaust.
At a news conference Tuesday at the federation’s Seattle headquarters, President Keith Dvorchik said longtime NRA spokesman Brian Judy should resign for reportedly connecting a ballot initiative designed to reduce gun violence to Nazi policies that led to the Holocaust……”
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/07/robert-dowlut-nra-murder-mystery “The story of how Dowlut walked away from a murder conviction and rose through the ranks of the NRA has never been told publicly. It begins with the transcript of his murder trial, part of a 2,100-page court file obtained by Mother Jones that includes detailed closed-door testimony not heard by the jury. Despite a series of phone calls and detailed written requests seeking comment for this article, Dowlut did not respond, nor did his wife. It is unclear whether he has ever disclosed his past to any colleagues—Hardy told me he had “no idea” about the murder conviction—or to his employer; LaPierre and other NRA leaders also did not respond to multiple requests for comment.”
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Elaine,
It’s past late & I shouldn’t be attempting to write you, but because of time I know I’ll not be able to get back here.
“to thine own self be true”
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/to_thine_own_self_be_true
Sometimes I do not agree with your opinions & that is fine.
Right or wrong it is through this type of dialog we start to understand each other as
“Human Beings” so think you for your opinions, please keep writing, but with special attention to others who have differing opinions.
Gnite.
Awe come one…. You left out the most important one…. Loading your own Ammo….. What good is having a rifle if you don’t know how to load your own….
Only kidding….
I just got back from a two week odyssey across the Northwest…. It was absolutely beautiful….. I’d suggest most of em have a rifle in every home…. The cattle drives in the early morning to BLM land….. It was pretty awesome…..
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Elaine,
I realize Gene’s website is just in it’s infancy with not many readers. Not so different then when I 1st stumbled onto Infowars.com 16-17 years ago. Today, now Infowars is over 100 times bigger then Jonathan Turley’s site &, I’m not sure their classification, but it’s now reported the Infowars in the number 1 site on Youtube.com, all the while so called Liberal/Progressive sites/news outlet lose/bleed viewers/readers in Mass.
When some people post their thoughts I know it’s now actually helping positions I believe in regardless of my know health flaws.
To which I say, keep posting people, weigh your opinions in public & let the public decide for themselves just as I do.
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Oky1,
I did a little research on the the internet analytics of your favorite site. Your favorite site has a national ranking of 409, which is extremely high. Average of about 33 million page views per month.
Daily Kos has a ranking of 316, with an average 37 million page views per month.
Both sites are 800 pound gorillas on the internet. I believe FPS Russia is the #1 ranked YouTube channel.
Elaine Magliaro,
I wish to be sweet & nice to people yet then there are the times like now in which we can no long sugar coat reality.
Oh well, I see this is a waste of my time, but you can surly see why the people in the below video will never be forcibly disarmed.
So don’t go to hell Elaine, I suggest North Korea or Great Britain if you will not change your attitude.
Elaine, I don’t know who/how you got so Ph’ked up but as a”” friend”, (I mean this) please find someone to help you as I’m about to enter my push all the idiots off a cliff phase.
Get your Sheeet straight Pleeease!!!. The world is over run with Lunatics right now, thank you, I can hardly put up with another that “should” know better.
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Oky,
Oh my! The personal attacks just keep on a comin’. Am I to assume that you think that proficiency in gun skills should be a requirement for children in public schools to advance to the next grade level?
Elaine, keep up the good work. 🙂
Elaine,
I’m just responding back to your constant public attacks against the USA.
If you watched that video you seen other Americans that are having to put up with establishment Obama/Dems/Repukes allowing diseased hardened criminal illegal aliens flooding into this country.
And those criminals don’t give a damn how young that kid is they murder, rape or kidnapped.
I like to joke, but these issues are no joking matter.
Below is another good example of why you should be helping me & others throw Idiots over the cliff.
Ebola virus is so hazardous, it is classified as a biosafety level 4 agent … There is no cure for Ebola virus disease.
So we see in the news recently at least 2 people thought to have Ebola have been brought from Africa to Atlanta Georgia & a “Bio-Hazard Level 2 Facility”.
Why has the leaders that authorized the transfer of these patients not been Arrested yet?
You understand what I’m writing don’t you? Those insane b*stards are intentionally exposing the entire US gen pop Communicable diseases.
Those Communicable Diseases don’t give a damn whether we support Obama or Rand Paul or if we’re a dem,repuke or other.
Oky,
Can you be specific about my “constant public attacks against the USA?” All I did was post an NRA video with a brief explanation about what the commentator recommended. I fail to see how I attacked this country. I also fail to see the connection between my post and the Ebola virus.
** Elaine M. says:
July 31, 2014 at 6:49 pm
Blouse,
Some folks are obsessed with guns! Too bad they didn’t feel the same way about literature, art, music, the sciences. **
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Elaine M. says:
July 31, 2014 at 7:23 pm
Mary,
“What the hell is happening to our country?”
Good question!
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Elaine,
I’m not going to go to deep into these subjects at this time & I haven’t been flagging all your comments over time that have lead me time the conclusion that , not all the time, but often you take positions that run contrary to the traditions of freedom/liberty that were intend to flow from the founding docs of this nation.
One example is with your 6:49 comment in which you project onto people that if one is pro 2nd amd/pro freedom/liberty that they must also hate literature, art, music, the sciences. I reject your logic here.
Ebola virus comment was used to dovetail with the details that rancher & his wife proved us in the video at **Oky1 says: August 5, 2014 at 1:17 am**.
It’s meant in the context that regardless if it’s a kid or an adult they have to learn & maintain the basic skills to defend themselves & families.
And no, I don’t support govt forcing weapons training for every kid.
** Elaine M. says:
August 5, 2014 at 12:03 pm **
Elaine,
I can’t remember all your comments that were troubling to me with the direction you sometimes take, but I did remember this Mark Fiore clip I believe you posted.
https://www.markfiore.com/component/com_jusertube/auto,1/eh,385/ew,640/height,500/rid,BMF58rJM1k8/srztb_iframe,true/st,yes/view,lightbox/width,680/yuser,markfiore/
Best I recall about the time it was posted there appeared to me a system wide propaganda attack to demonize everything about the founders/this country by those who claim to be on the left.
Yes, there were plenty of hypocrisy & rotten things wrong with some of the founders & the founding docs.
Some of those problems have since been addressed & others have not yet been.
My position remains to keep the good & attempt to get rid of the bad. And that would mean also do not change a word or a comma to the original Preamble of the Bill of Rights unless it meant expanding Freedom.Liberty of the individual.
Below is a movie I hope to see soon that may address what I’m speaking of above & thought I’d point it out to you as you may be interested in hearing a different prospective.
If interested here is a review by a few journalist/writers
http://christwire.org/2014/08/obama-is-infecting-christians-with-ebola-to-destroy-jesus-and-start-a-new-age-of-liberal-darkness/ Here’s one for y’all, Oky.