UPDATE in the Shooting Death of Tamir Rice: Extended Video Released by Cleveland City Officials

Tamir Rice

Tamir Rice

By Elaine Magliaro

Cleveland city officials have finally released a 30-minute video that shows what happened in the aftermath of the police shooting of twelve-year-old Tamir Rice. The video confirms claims made by Samaria Rice, Tamir’s mother, that officers stopped her daughter from aiding her brother, cuffed her, and put her in their police cruiser. The video also supports Samaria Rice’s claim that police failed to render first aid for several minutes.

Travis Gettys (Raw Story)

The video shows rookie Officer Timothy Loehmann help his partner, Officer Frank Garmback, restrain the teenage girl and place her in the back of a police cruiser about 10 feet away from her brother as he lay dying on the ground.

Police stood around the wounded boy, including one who stood with hands on hips as an FBI agent arrived and administered first aid four minutes after officers shot the child.

Paramedics arrived eight minutes after the boy was shot, and he was taken away on a stretcher 13 minutes after the shooting.

Unfortunately, Tamir Rice later died at a hospital.

Video shows Tamir Rice shooting aftermath
This extended video that was released on Wednesday shows Cleveland police officers forcing the 14-year-old sister of Tamir Rice to the ground after one of them shot her brother to death at Cudell Recreation Center on Novener 22, 2014.

NOTE: Tamir Rice’s sister appears just after 1:40 on the video:

Cory Shaffer (Cleveland Plain Dealer) described what transpired after Officer Loehmann shot Tamir Rice:

Officers then stood around Tamir as he lay wounded. One officer had his hands on his hips when a man, identified by police as an FBI agent who was in the neighborhood, entered the frame and administered first aid. It was the first medical care the boy received in the four minutes that followed the shooting. 

Paramedics did not arrive until about eight minutes after the shooting. Much of what happened to Tamir after the shooting is blocked by Garmback and Loehmann’s squad car. The paramedics can be seen working as officers stand around the boy. 

Tamir is whisked away on a stretcher a little over 13 minutes after the shooting. 

Walter Madison, an Akron-based attorney who is representing the Rice family, called the video “shocking and outrageous.” He added, “This has to be the cruelest thing I’ve ever seen.” Madison also said that “the video depicted officers who showed ‘overwhelming indifference’ to Tamir as he lay on the ground.”

Shaffer said that the extended video “raises more questions for Madison, who said the family wants to know why Cleveland police hired Loehmann after he was on his way to being fired from Independence police in 2012 and was turned down by several other area police agencies before he joined the city’s force.” Madison said, “This is the level of service that makes people very upset and distrustful of law enforcement.”



New video shows cops handcuffing Tamir Rice’s sister after gunning down her brother (Raw Story)

Extended Tamir Rice shooting video shows officers restrained sister (Cleveland Plain Dealer)

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47 Responses to UPDATE in the Shooting Death of Tamir Rice: Extended Video Released by Cleveland City Officials

  1. mespo727272 says:

    As much as anything, it’s an indictment of the gun culture bravado so prevalent today. When I was young it was impressed on me by just about every adult that a gun was a tool. Something to be learned and used for a specific useful purpose. You always assumed it was loaded and hence lethal. You didn’t play with guns or use them to frighten or intimidate. They were for hunting, protection and target shooting. Nothing else. This is not to say that this child did anything contrary to that prescription or deserved his fate but I have to wonder what parent lets his 12-year-old son out on those mean streets with a look-alike weapon? Not mine. If the child did it on his own, who was teaching him about life?

  2. bigfatmike says:

    “As much as anything, it’s an indictment of the gun culture bravado so prevalent today.”

    I have to admit that the look-alike toy gun is a problem. But I don’t think I can agree that the toy gun rises to the level of the problem presented by LE tactics. It is my understanding that, while they did issue an order for the child to drop the weapon, the lethal shots were fired within 2 seconds.

    In that short period of time, I don’t see how we have assurance that he heard and understood the order, let alone had a chance to comply.

    I might support LE if in those few seconds lives hung in the balance. But in this case it seems that LE could have taken more time and likely defused the situation.

    It seems to me that in many deadly force interactions we see officers who meet the letter of the law but are in fact trigger happy and shoot when other options are available.

  3. mespo727272 says:

    Apparently we had a communication problem, too. The dispatcher, aware of the likelihood of the look-alike instead of the real thing, failed to convey that crucial information to the officers who responded. The dispatcher also failed to advise that it was likely a juvenile involved. Like most tragedies it was a confluence of laziness, ineptitude and failed communication that got this child killed. I find it considerably different that the other cases we have discussed based on the facts alone. The responding officers who responded were not optimal but they were blinded by circumstances beyond their control.

  4. eniobob says:

    Very,Very SAD.

  5. buckaroo says:

    Sad, sad situation – however, I must ask, because I don’t know, who is giving these kids toy guns to play with ? Everyday I hear of incidents with guns leading to killings, disabilities, long recovery & regrets. Now we have the killing of police. We expect a lot from the police – we should also ask corresponding culpability from the sires of these children dead holding toy guns on public lands where crime is a daily occurance

  6. Elaine M. says:

    Kids today play with guns–just as I did as a child. I don’t ever recall any police shootings of children who played with guns during my days growing up.

    We live in a country in which many of our people are enamored of guns. We have open carry laws…concealed carry laws. There is something far more serious than kids playing with realistic guns going on here. I’d say one of the factors is the color of the child/adult carrying a gun–whether it’s a real gun or a toy gun that looks real. Why do we see so many white people carrying guns around and never getting shot by police? Think of the supporters of Cliven Bundy who actually aimed their guns at federal officers. What happened to them? Weren’t they perceived as a threat?

  7. mespo727272 says:

    Elaine M:

    I suspect each shooting derives from the specific facts involved. I don’t recall many police shootings just like I don’t recall too many kids playing with guns in public. While race surely plays a role in a lot of situations,I don’t think this was conscious racism in practice. Perhaps it was unconscious racism but that is largely unprovable. This was a preventable tragedy if someone had intervened — the dispatcher, the parents, a more experienced cop, all could have made the difference but didn’t. At worst it’s a case of negligence; at best, a tragic unavoidable accident by the parties involved.

  8. Elaine M. says:


    Whether it’s conscious or unconscious–racism exists in this country.

    There have been problems with the Cleveland Police Department and the use of excessive force:

    Justice Dept.: Cleveland police has pattern of excessive force

    A report released Thursday details a nearly two-year Justice Department investigation which found that Cleveland police use guns, Tasers, pepper spray and their fists excessively, unnecessarily or in retaliation. Officers also have used excessive force on those “who are mentally ill or in crisis,” the Justice Department said.

    Now a federal court will keep tabs on the Cleveland police as part of a legal agreement going forward.

    The Justice Department’s investigation started in 2013, after several incidents, including a controversial case the previous year when more than 100 officers were involved in a high-speed chase that ended with the deaths of two unarmed civilians.

  9. Bob Stone says:


    When you have your mind made up, the truth is of no concern.


  10. Elaine M. says:

    That’s right. If your mind is made up that there has never been a problem with the Cleveland Police Department or any of its law enforcement officers, then you know for sure that the killing of twelve-year-old Tamir Rice had to have been justified. After all, he WAS playing with a toy gun that looked real.

  11. Bob Stone says:


    I know you read The Crucible; my question is did you learn anything from it?

  12. Elaine M. says:


    If anyone has a closed mind, I’d say it’s you. Do you think that the officer-involved shooting of Tamir Rice was justified? Do you think that Eric Garner deserved to die at the hands of the NYPD because he was selling loose cigarettes? Do you think Michael Brown was such a bad apple that he deserved to be killed by Officer Wilson? Do you think that John Crawford was asking for it when he was killed by a police officer in a Walmart store in Ohio? Get a grip!

  13. Bob Stone says:

    Witchcraft, McCarthyism, racism….

    All non-debatable indictments.

    • bigfatmike says:

      “Witchcraft, McCarthyism, racism….Same machinery; different day.”

      On the contrary, I would argue that from sociology and psychology we have experiments that demonstrate as clearly as we know anything about society that racism exists and plays a role in aspects like selection of job candidates, and that unconscious racism exists and influences decisions in ways the subject does not realize.

      Racism is real. We can demonstrate it. And, in limited ways, we have techniques to work against it.

      For example, many people do not support racism but are unaware the suffer from unconscious racism. Simple exercises that demonstrate the individuals unconscious racism can give them insight to their own behavior and the motivation to make more objective decisions.

      When businesses are presented with objective evidence of their racist decisions they may have little choice but to change or face litigation likely to prevail.

      The claim that the documented examples of racism are little more than superstition is nothing more than ignorance or worse denial.

  14. Bob Stone says:

    As folks like Benjamin Crump and Al Sharpton prove time and again, those non-debatable indictments of racism are powerful political weapons.

  15. Bob Stone says:

    “Do you think Michael Brown was such a bad apple that he deserved to be killed by Officer Wilson?”

    Deserve’s got nothin to do with it.

  16. Elaine M. says:

    Right, Bob! Anyone who disagrees with you on this issue is a member of an hysterical mob. Same old claim…different day. Of course, back in the early days of Massachusetts, people were hanged/crushed to death because some folks believed them to be witches/demons. Today, some cops kill black boys and men whom they believe to be dangerous individuals/demons. Same idea–except the color of the people’s skin is different.

  17. Elaine M. says:


    What about Tamir Rice…and Eric Garner…and John Crawford? Care to respond to my earlier questions about their deaths at the hands of police?

  18. Bob Stone says:

    Elaine, you’ve linked all those killings together by imposing a racist intent to them all.

    How do you justify that line of thinking?

  19. Elaine M. says:

    The point is, Bob, that you won’t entertain the thought that some black people in this country are killed by police because of their color.

  20. Bob Stone says:

    What about Tamir Rice —

    Tragic; but not racist. The cop didn’t get the same info that the dispatcher got from the caller.

    Eric Garner —

    From what I’ve read and seen it looked like negligent homicide made possible by resisting arrest in such bad medical condition. But probable cause for negligent homicide.

    But to claim that the police don’t think “Black lives matter” by linking all these non-related cases together is simply wrong.

  21. Elaine M. says:


    I asked questions about the officer-involved killings of four different individuals in four different sentences. Why not think that I did that so you could consider/respond to each one separately?

  22. Bob Stone says:

    “The point is, Bob, that you won’t entertain the thought that some black people in this country are killed by police because of their color.”

    No Elaine,

    The point is that you can’t ruin people’s lives by making unfounded accusations simply because you think it’s in service of some greater goal.

    That’s called BEARING FALSE WITNESS.

    It’s not only a crime but a sin.

  23. Bob Stone says:


    I’m not saying racism isn’t real. I see racism in the drug war and the prison industrial complex.
    But its mere existence doesn’t entitle you to see it wherever you want no matter who gets hurt in the process.

    “The witch-hunt was not, however, a mere repression. It was also, and as importantly, a long overdue opportunity for every-one so inclined to express publicly his guilt and sins, under the cover of accusations against the victims. Long-held hatreds of neighbors could now be openly ex-pressed, and vengeance taken, despite the Bible’s charitable injunctions. Land-lust which had been expressed before by constant bickering over boundaries and deeds, could now be elevated to the arena of morality; one could cry witch against one’s neighbor and feel perfectly justified in the bargain. Old scores could be settled on a plane of heavenly combat between Lucifer and the Lord; suspicions and the envy of the miserable toward the happy could and did burst out in the general revenge.” — Arthur Miller

  24. The Fiscal Manager for the Cleveland Department of Public Safety has resigned. Shawn Gidley cited the Tamir Rice shooting as the last straw, following the 2011 fire department payroll scandal and the Great Police Chase of 2012. Copy of letter below:

  25. Bob Kauten says:

    Thanks for the clarification on Arthur Miller’s words.
    All this time, I’d thought that Miller wrote The Crucible about the Salem witch trials, as an analog to the McCarthyism that he’d suffered from.
    I was misinformed.
    Now, I understand that Miller was writing The Crucible in defense of the police killing unarmed black folks. How remarkable that his prescience allowed him to write about events 61 years in the future. And invoke the Lord in and the Bible in the process.

    I guess if one runs out of arguments which have any semblance of truth, one must invoke the Bible, and the mysterious ways of the Lord.
    “It’s a tradition!”

  26. pete says:

    maybe Cleveland needs a leash law.

  27. gbk says:

    “I’m not saying racism isn’t real. I see racism in the drug war and the prison industrial complex.
    But its mere existence doesn’t entitle you to see it wherever you want no matter who gets hurt in the process.”

    “mere existence”

    I think the points that others are making here is that the existence of racism is not “mere” in this country. I also haven’t see claims for “entitlement.”

    • Bob Stone says:


      Let’s be fair.

      When I say that the mere existence of rape does not entitle one to make false accusations of rape to bring the topic to people’s attention (see rationalizations of Jamie Leigh Jones, etc.); do you really think that I’m downplaying the crime of rape?

  28. gbk says:

    see = seen

  29. Elaine M. says:

    Bob Stone says:
    January 8, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    “The point is, Bob, that you won’t entertain the thought that some black people in this country are killed by police because of their color.”

    No Elaine,

    The point is that you can’t ruin people’s lives by making unfounded accusations simply because you think it’s in service of some greater goal.

    That’s called BEARING FALSE WITNESS.

    It’s not only a crime but a sin.


    Is it a sin to ruin people’s lives by killing them? You’re implying that people who entertain the thought that racism may be a factor in some of the officer-involved killings of black people are bearing false witness. I’m not buying it. BTW, I’m not a fan of Al Sharpton.

  30. gbk says:


    I have no idea. Words over time, though, bring about a perspective.

  31. blouise17 says:

    A great many people are looking for someone to blame other than the guy who pulled the trigger.

    This is the review that guy earned as a cop in Independence:

    “He could not follow simple directions, could not communicate clear thoughts nor recollections, and his handgun performance was dismal,” Independence Deputy Chief Jim Polak said in letter that recommends firing Loehmann. “I do not believe time, nor training, will be able to change or correct the deficiencies.”

    Loehmann was emotionally immature and circumvented direction, Polak said.

    “He often feels that when told to do something, that those instructions are optional and that he can manipulate them if he so feels it can better serve him.”

    In actuality the guy gave the kid less than 2 seconds before he shot him and “it is unclear if Tamir heard or understood the commands”. The cop claims he ordered Tamir to “show his hands” 3 times through the door as the car was speeding towards the child. Remember that this is the guy who manipulates as he feels best serves him. How fortunate for him that the video has no sound.

    As to how the guy feels about blacks, well, I’m sure we’ll be hearing from acquaintances of his as time goes on.

  32. Bob Stone says:

    Elaine: “Is it a sin to ruin people’s lives by killing them?”


    The only way that argument works in the case of Officer Wilson is to deny him the right of self-defense; legally, morally and factually — as Dorian Johnson did by lying about the altercation at the car.

    “You’re implying that people who entertain the thought that racism may be a factor in some of the officer-involved killings of black people are bearing false witness.”

    Are you kidding me?

    When did any of this deliberation about whether “racism MAY have been a factor” occur?

    As I told BFM yesterday, there was no “rigorous and fair investigation” into the allegations against Wilson being a racist killer; it was assumed as gospel.

    Thus we heard comments like this during the nationally televised funeral for Mike Brown:

    “Over One Hundred and Sixty years ago, about ten miles away from where we gather in this great Church to pay our Final Respects to young Michael Brown, The Missouri Supreme Court decided, in “what is still affectingly referred to as “the Old Courthouse,” the Dred Scott Decision.

    And the substance of that decision was adopted by the US Supreme Court some five years later, holding that “Persons of African descent cannot be, nor were ever intended to be, citizens under the U.S. Constitution.”

    Now one could logically conclude that this manner of thinking followed the precedence of the 1787 Three Fifths Compromise, which said African Americans were to be considered only three-fifths of a man.

    But as we pay our final respects to Michael Brown, Jr., we declare today that he was not 3/5’s of a Citizen, he was an American Citizen, because we hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal. And because of these truths, we will not accept 3/5’s justice for Michael Brown, Jr, we demand Equal Justice for Michael Brown, Jr.”

  33. Bob Stone says:


    I make no representations about competency of the officer that shot Tamir Rice. From what I’ve read it’s hard to believe he was able to carry a gun.

    My objection was to the use of the non-debatable indictment of racism in the absence of any further evidence than the existence of other such indictments in the same vein.

  34. gbk says:

    “As I told BFM yesterday, there was no ‘rigorous and fair investigation’ into the allegations against Wilson being a racist killer; it was assumed as gospel.”

    And that’s why the GJ exonerated him: because the gospel assumption was that Wilson was a racist killer. That makes sense!

    You confuse media with legal process; you seem too want the two to align. They never will.

  35. Elaine M. says:

    Not everyone agrees with your view of Officer Wilson’s shooting of Michael Brown. Not everyone thinks he shot at Brown in order to protect his own life. When did those of us who have argued with you with regard to the Michael Brown case claim that Darren Wilson was–without any doubt–a racist killer?

    Didn’t you assume as gospel Josie’s version of events before all the evidence was in?

  36. Bob Stone says:


    The more I read what kind of questions the grand jury was asking the more respect I have for them.

  37. gbk says:

    That’s fine.

  38. blouise17 says:

    Deputy Chief Edward Tomba confirmed during a press conference Wednesday that Loehmann shot Rice “1 ½ to 2 seconds” after arriving at the scene.

    “Shots fired, male down, black male, maybe 20,” says the officer who called in the shooting. (wrong … again)

    And the FBI agent who was the first to try and save the child was working a bank robbery detail.

  39. blouise17 says:

    And for some strange reason the Cleveland Police fought releasing the part of the video showing the cops tackling the 14 year old sister, handcuffing her, and pushing her into the backseat of the cruiser. The PD. (stands for Plain Dealer now known as the Northeast Ohio Media Group) had to use.

  40. blouise17 says:


  41. blouise17 says:


    According to the Justice Department, the problems at the Cleveland police department include excessive force in shootings and blows to the head; excessive or retaliatory use of tasers, chemical spray and fists; excessive force against mentally ill people and risky tactics that make the use of force unavoidable.

    Among the incidents singled out by federal investigators: a police sergeant responding to a hostage scene fired his weapon at a fleeing hostage, who was wearing only underwear.

    “It is only by fortune that he did not kill the crime victim in this incident,’’ the Justice Department concluded. “The sergeant had no reasonable belief that Anthony posed an immediate danger. The man fleeing the home was wearing only boxer shorts, making it extremely unlikely that he was one of the hostage takers.’’

    In another instance, an officer shot a man who had put his hands up and then appeared to lower them due to a command to put his hands behind his back

    The use of excessive force by police in the city has created a deep mistrust, especially in the black community, the report concluded. (Now I wonder why especially in the black community. Maybe blacks are just overly sensitive.)

  42. Elaine M. says:


    They’re overly sensitive. Yeh, that’s the ticket!

  43. Elaine M. says:

    Cleveland dispatcher who handled Tamir Rice shooting has previous arrest, was fired from previous dispatcher job

  44. blouise says:

    “The termination came the same month of Mandl’s Sept. 29, 2008 arrest on a concealed carry violation. She was charged with bringing a gun into a liquor establishment, according to court records.

    Her case was bound over to a Cuyahoga County grand jury, according to court records, but the county has no record of the case. A Cleveland Municipal Court spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.” – from above link

    I wonder why there is no record of the grand jury decision.

    Ok … let’s look at a little recent history regarding our former County Prosecutor, Bill Mason who was in office in 2008.

    “A 2008 Cleveland Scene article revealed a number of criminals who donate large sums of money to Mason’s political campaigns.

    Mason is currently under investigation by the Ohio Ethics Commission. In August, 2009, the OEC subpoenaed records from his office related to contracts his office awarded to Qwestcom Graphics, a company co-owned by Mason’s business partner.[2] In December, 2009, a Cuyahoga County Common Peas judge accused Mason of trying to intimidate her decision in the case of a childhood friend of Mason’s.[3] On December 30, Mason was the passenger in a car driven by his campaign manager Tom Regas when Regas was pulled over by Seven Hills police and arrested for drunken driving. Seven Hills police inexplicably did not put Mason’s name in the report of the incident, though an officer did drive Mason home.”



  45. blouise says:


    Amended lawsuit filed by Tamir Rice’s family in case against city of Cleveland

    ” … The suit also incorporates information that emerged about the day Tamir was shot that was not released when the first lawsuit was filed in early December. Namely, it goes into detail about the moments after the shooting when Tajai Rice, 14, was tackled and restrained as she ran towards her brother screaming “my baby brother, they killed my baby brother.”

    See video below of this scene.

    Tajai was handcuffed and put into the back of a squad car only a few feet from where brother lay bleeding to death on the ground, providing her with a window view from the back seat where she could watch 12-year-old Tamir dying, but “handcuffed and helpless to try to save him,” the suit says.

    Once Samaria Rice arrived, police gave her the option of going to the hospital with her dying 12-year-old or stay with her 14-year-old daughter handcuffed and detained in the back of the police cruiser, according to the lawsuit.”


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