whether POTUS45* lasts six months or more, there remain ‘alternative facts’

By ann summers

One betting shop lost five million dollars on HRC winning the White House in 2016, so unpredictability rules still about the construction of facts. And then there’s probabilty and the machinery of government, perhaps compelling POTUS45* to resign to “get back to his business” as if he ever left it in 2016. impeach_1_.jpg

In the case of POTUS45*s White House, however “after the fact” ex ante or ex post, have now become new euphemisms of truth. OTOH objective reality is fast becoming Schrödinger’s pussy cat.

“Alternative fact” as a meme is in itself a contestable “fact” so that “alt-fact” could become a neologism, but like alt-right, no about of white-washing can make its meaningfulness come epistemologically clean.

 

Fact (“a piece of information presented as having objective reality”) spiked dramatically on January 22nd, following an exchange between Chuck Todd and Kellyanne Conway on NBC’s Meet the Press that was fraught with epistemological tension.


You’re saying it’s a falsehood, and Sean Spicer, our press secretary is giving alternative facts to that,” Conway shot back.

“Wait a minute, alternative facts? Alternative facts — four of the five facts he uttered, the one that he got right was Zeke Miller, four of the five facts he uttered are not true. Alternative facts are not facts — they’re falsehoods,” Todd replied. —Maxwell Tani, businessinsider.com, 22 Jan. 2017

📈A fact is a piece of information presented as having objective reality. https://t.co/gCKRZZm23c

There are three obsolete senses of fact in English. Two of these senses are no longer used:

  • a wrong or unlawful deed
  • a meritorious or valorous deed
  • an action in general

Fact meaning “a wrong or unlawful deed” is rare, but is still used in the phrase “after the fact.”

In contemporary use, fact is generally understood to refer to something with actual existence, or presented as having objective reality.

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That’s according to the online betting site Paddy Power, which has placed the odds of Trump failing to complete his first term at 7 to 4. The odds of Trump getting impeached in the first six months stand at 4 to 1. Other offerings include bets on the inauguration itself and the future of his marriage to Melania Trump (currently 16/1 in 2017)

Bookmaker Ladbrokes has cut the odds on Donald Trump leaving office early due to impeachment or resignation amid mounting controversy about how he will manage his business interests after becoming America’s 45th President.

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On January 19, Trump’s odds of leaving office before his first term had dropped back down to even.The odds are part of a group of “Donald Trump Specials” offered by Ladbrokes, including a 2-1 bet that he won’t be reelected in 2020 and a 5-4 bet that he’ll visit Russia by the end of the year. Now, gambling odds aren’t exactly reliable predictive science — they’re pretty far from it, in a lot of cases — but there’s lots of reason to think that a bet against Trump finishing his first term is a pretty good bet.

Ladbrokes opened the market at 3-1, cutting it to 5-2, and again to 9-4 in the wake of a flurry of bets on the back of a growing consensus among law professors that the controversial Republican is heading for trouble.

While many critics of the incoming President have been hoping that they may be able to remove him by legal means, the history books don’t favour them, and the hurdles such a legal challenge would have to clear to succeed are daunting. This partly explains why bookies are still very keen on taking bets.

The only previous president to leave office early was Mr Trump’s fellow Republican Richard Nixon, who resigned the presidency on August 9, 1974 in the wake of the Watergate scandal.

Ladbrokes head of political betting Matt Shaddick said: “Punters seem to think there’s a good chance he will leave office before the end of his first term. Given the history, we’re happy to take their money.”

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President Bill Clinton was in 1998 impeached on allegations of perjury and obstruction of justice in the wake of the Monica Lewinsky sex scandal. Again, the charges went to the Senate, where Clinton survived rather more easily than his predecessor, the vote going 55/45 against on the perjury charge with a 50/50 split on the perjury charge.

bookmakers are currently offering odds on whether Trump—the least popular incoming president in four decades—will get impeached or be forced to resign. Some even predict that he won’t survive the first six months in office.

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19 Responses to whether POTUS45* lasts six months or more, there remain ‘alternative facts’

  1. Russell says:

    I think Kelly Ann Conway has seriously eroded her degree from Georgetown. She is a neoclassical liar. She like Trump invents there truth to accommodate the facts they have.

    It’s one thing to alternate plead a case, it’s another thing to invent a lie to deceive the audience.

    I am quite sure she will be grieved with the disciplinary board of the states or states she is licensed in.

    I do not think she has the qualifications to hold a law license.

    • Who taught her Constitutional Law course? Inquiring minds want to know.

      • Russell says:

        Chuck,

        I am of the impression that dear ole Jonathan taught her Con Law, as he was pimping her out when she started running the Dumpsters campaign. I could be wrong, this is just an Alternative Fact….lol… I am going to get mileage out of this one… you know, it’s scary, I mean.. really scary. And you know what it’s just sad, real sad. You know, we can make America great again…

      • Terry Welshans says:

        It may have been George Orwell…..

    • Terry Welshans says:

      I just googled her and found out all about her on wikipedia.

      About half way down the page it has this:

      “Conway credits her experience working for eight summers on a blueberry farm in Hammonton, New Jersey for teaching her a strong work ethic. “The faster you went, the more money you’d make.” At age 16 she won the New Jersey Blueberry Princess pageant. At 20, she won the World Champion Blueberry Packing competition. She states, “Everything I learned about life and business started on that farm.””

      She is putting that hard earned knowledge and experience to work as we speak.

  2. wordcloud9 says:

    I hope all of these people are wearing fire-proof pants – White House hasn’t burned down since 1814.

  3. Russell says:

    You have to remember that was fake news, Washington never burned. It was colonial propaganda. They needed more revenues from the farmers and this was the only way they could get them out to make them pay. This is just an alternative response.

    It was not really a big fire, if Abigail Adams hadn’t left the front door open it would have never happened, besides, she was the last one in the White House and tipped over the kerosene lantern she had.

    Alternative theory number 2.

  4. Terry Welshans says:

    The nation would be best served if the press never again attends a POTUS press event and never again has Ms Conway on the news. I say ignore them, and get back to reporting the facts as they happen, with no input or reply from them. If you want an easy way to tell if they are lying, watch their lips when they talk: if they move their lips, they are lying. Boycott the Press Secretary.

  5. shortfinals says:

    Terry, they are also lying when you see their fingers moving over a keyboard (or leaving Cheeto stains on an Android ‘phone).

  6. Russell says:

    I know, I know…. it’s not a lie when you hold your arm behind your back with your fingers crossed and you wink twice with your left eye….

  7. Russell says:

    Yes, I read that, Obama still loved his Blackberry. Even though it was created by RIM an English Company, however it was fully funded by the CIA, it was used the first time during the El Salvador Gurilla up rising. Just thank Uncle Ronnie for this one. Soon after it was offered for sale to the general public as it had end to end encryption.

    I understand that LavaBit is going back on line with end to end encryption and the server deletes it immediately. You might remember the name Edward Snowden? He was using LavaBit and the government got a subpoena for his emails. The founder rather than comply, shuttered the email server in 2004. He is finally putting it up again, with these encryption.

    This is not an alternative theory or fake news unless the article I relied upon was false to begin with.

  8. Russell says:

    If you want some easy reading about CREW and Trump google it up, they have filed complaints with the IRS, Trump Hotel in DC etc…

    I read that they intend to file a complaint on Monday involving the Emoluments Clause.

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/20/news/trump-conflicts-inauguration/

  9. Russell says:

    So, we now have a new name for her, Jelly Blueberry…wearing a Burberry….

  10. Terry Welshans says:

    The Guardian has a story about the size of the crowd at the inauguration that includes a photo taken from the Washington Monument,

    Story here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/26/donald-trump-inauguration-crowd-size-national-parks-photos

    Photo here: https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/97c606f51d816bda585624c663ac09c81275dd3e/320_32_3019_1813/master/3019.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=b216947bcd13c62547bc332d5d113af8

    Yea, they are about the same size, his perhaps half again larger than Obama’s 2009 photo (AF) Look for your self.

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