USS Lolli-Trump … “We are going to start winning again!”

By ann summers


An Iranian built mockup of a US Nimitz-class carrier is destroyed during the IRGCN Noble Prophet exercise. (ONI Photo)
Iranian officials had more than a dozen speedboats attack a replica of a US aircraft carrier today and featured the large-scale naval drill on a state TV broadcast. The nationally-televised show of force by the country’s elite Revolutionary Guard occurred near the strategically vital entrance of the Persian Gulf. The ‘Great Prophet 9’ drill was held near the Strait of Hormuz, through which about a fifth of the world’s oil passes.

The Iranian mock-up of a US aircraft carrier, when first viewed from satellite pictures, did confuse intelligence analysts, because it could have been more than a photo-op tow target for a military exercise, but it did seem pretty stupid to think the Iranian navy, even its contingent of wacko Revolutionary Guards, would ever build a working ship or a movie prop like the one in Deadpool.

Even more stupid would be to build more such ships to be deployed so closely and with battlefield commanders given more operational autonomy …. oh wait.

Aboard the USS Gerald R. Ford (Mar. 2, 2017) President Donald J. Trump promises sailors and shipyard workers that he’d planning to rebuild the Navy during a speech given onboard the soon-to-be commissioned aircraft carrier at the Huntington Ingalls Shipyard Newport News Shipyard

Submarines and targets – another symbol of Trumpian naval gazing on MIC procurement. Put Trump’s name on a white water elephant.

POTUS45* loves his (four-and-a-half acre) real estate and showed up to rattle sabers after a joint address to Congress that even bamboozled liberal commentators. The event was meant to spike the ball (bearings) on MIC budget matters. Then those Russian connections appeared and the 530am tweet-storm happened on Saturday.

Agent Orange promised more construction because that’s what he’s all about, shovel-ready stuff for ribbon-cutting ceremonies or being fiscally responsible by whining about the costs of the F-35, because “taking charge” of that product makes sense to the future non-US customers, and maybe even sell a few more F-18s elsewhere in the bargain. Win!

Worst of all, RWNJs invented a CT about lack of US aircraft carrier deployment by PBO prior to the 2017 inaugural by ginning up something, something “secret Muslim”. So much for media disinformation in the service of crypto-fascism.

“I christen thee USS Dog The Wag”

Orange shitgibbon really wants a ship named after him and like branded skyscrapers, it should be an aircraft carrier. Unlike JFK, DJT is pretty shallow draft and naming ships for presidents tends to either submarines (Jimmy Carter) or targets like aircraft carriers, although now GW Bush, Bill Clinton, and even, ZOMG Barack Obama, would precede Lord Dampnut in the naming queue, unless there’s a significant historical military event, assuming that there will be shipyards after WW-III.

  • U.S. Navy ships are named by the secretary of the Navy—under the direction of the president—according to a 2012 Navy report to the Congress. But within the Navy there are two warring camps—“orthodox traditionalists” who believe ship names should rigidly follow naming conventions, and “pragmatic traditionalists” who are more flexible.
  • Naming conventions for aircraft carriers and for other ships have changed over the years, but the current unofficial convention was adopted in 1996 with the 104th Congress. The Republican-dominated Congress demanded the Democratic President Bill Clinton name the next carrier after President Ronald Reagan. Clinton acquiesced after a compromise was reached—CVN-75 would be renamed Harry S. Truman after the thirty-third and Democratic president, instead of being called United States.
Steve Bannon Senior Year 1972.Benedictine High School, Richmond, VA.Military Court; Steve is on the left.Credit:  Seth Poppel/Yearbook Library

“Can we think of a photo-op as stupid as 2012’s Romney (alternative service, France) introducing his vice presidential running mate, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan (civilian, P90X), in Norfolk, Va. on the USS Wisconsin?”Then there’s all those Russian connections and Sessions choking on what should be some disturbing revelations on crony capitalism and kleptocracy realized at the Commander-in-Chief level.

The only pivoting since then has been the continuing strategy of tension criminalizing entire ethnicities and religions to distract from some hard realities of why Bannonism will get everyone killed,… because winning.

Even a junior ex-officer like Steve Bannon can appreciate that an ASCM (anti-ship cruise missile) or a super-cavitating missile/torpedo launched by a cheap third-world sub will make all those Argo fantasies of Benghazi revenge go south. But maybe that’s what they want, or what Putin wants.

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“After years of budget cuts that have impaired our defense, I am calling for one of the largest defense spending increases in history. And by eliminating the sequester and the uncertainty it creates, we will make it easier for the Navy to plan for the future,” Trump said, referring to the budget caps that Congress has imposed on the Pentagon for the past five years…

“This carrier and the new ships of the Ford Class will expand the ability of our nation to carry out vital missions on the oceans to project American power in distant lands,” he said. “Hopefully, too, it is power we don’t have to use, but if we do, they’re in big, big trouble.”

In his speech, Trump paid homage to the importance of U.S. aircraft carriers past and present, and reminded the crowd that it was U.S. carriers — Yorktown, Enterprise and Hornet — that turned the tide of World War II in the Pacific at Midway.


“Our carriers are the centerpiece of American military might overseas,” he said. “We are standing here today on four-and-a-half acres of combat power and sovereign U.S. territory, the likes of which there is nothing… there is no competition to this ship.”

He got cheers from the crowd when he promised to end the defense sequester and give “our military the tools to prevent war and, if needed, to fight war and only do one thing — you know what that is? Win. We are going to start winning again.”

Nothing but technocracy-pr0n for the MIC: “big, big(ly) trouble”

Trump vowed to expand the number of carriers the United States fields from 10 to 12. And he promised to bring down the cost of building three “super-carriers,” which has ballooned by a third over the last decade from $27 to $36 billion.

The Gerald R. Ford alone is $2.5 billion over budget and three years behind schedule, military officials say. The second Ford-class carrier, the John F. Kennedy, is running five years late…

On 6 March 2015 it was reported that in a later erased blogspot of the French Navy and Defense Ministry that during a recent training exercise off Florida Saphir, in her role as part of the "enemy" attack group, had "sunk" the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt.[2]

On 6 March 2015 it was reported that in a later erased blogspot of the French Navy and Defense Ministry that during a recent training exercise off Florida Saphir, in her role as part of the “enemy” attack group, had “sunk” the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt.[2]

In a combat exercise off the coast of Florida in 2015, a small French nuclear submarine, the Saphir, snuck through multiple rings of defenses and “sank” the U.S. aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt and half of its escort ships. In other naval exercises, even old-fashioned diesel-electric submarines have beaten carriers.

All told, since the early 1980s, U.S. and British carriers have been sunk at least 14 times in so-called “free play” war games meant to simulate real battle, according to think tanks, foreign navies and press accounts. The exact total is unknown because the Navy classifies exercise reports.

Today, the United States is the only country to base its naval strategy on aircraft carriers. The U.S. fleet of 10 active carriers is 10 times as big as those deployed by its primary military rivals, Russia and China, who field one active carrier each…

For carrier commanders, the most feared weapon is a 150-year-old one. A single, submarine-launched torpedo could send a carrier to the bottom.

Most modern torpedoes aren’t targeted to hit ships. Instead they are programmed to explode underneath. This creates an air bubble that lifts the ship into the air and drops it, breaking the hull.

For decades, critics have faulted the Navy for failing to develop effective defenses against modern torpedoes. A 2016 report by the Pentagon’s Office of Operational Test and Evaluation said the Navy has recently made significant progress, but the systems still have crucial deficiencies.


Saphir is the second of six Rubis-class nuclear attack submarines built for the French Navy. Rubis is the first generation of French nuclear attack submarines—while the French Navy has had nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines since the mid-60s, French attack submarines were conventionally powered until the early 1980s. At 2,630 tons submerged and 241 feet long the Rubis class may also be the smallest nuclear combatants ever put to sea. Each submarine has a crew of just 70 and is driven by one K48 pressurized water reactor to a speed of 25 knots underwater. The Rubis subs each have four bow torpedo tubes equipped with F17 Mod 2 torpedoes and MM39 Exocet anti-ship missiles.…

Experts also say that carriers are at risk from updated versions of one of the oldest naval vessels still in use: the diesel-electric submarine. These were the subs used in both World Wars.

Diesel-electric subs have the advantage of being small – and while on electric power, silent, and in general quieter and harder to detect than nuclear subs.

Diesel-electric subs are also far cheaper to build than nuclear ones. Allies and rivals have been building large numbers of them. Worldwide, more than 230 diesel-electric subs are in use. China has 83 in use, while Russia has 19.

Hendrix, the former Defense Department official, says the carriers’ vulnerabilities make the fleet a profligate use of money, vessels and aircraft.

“We have paid billions of dollars to build ships that are largely defensive in their orientation, thus taking away from the offensive power of the fleet,” Hendrix says.

“In the end, we spend a lot of money on defense to send 44 strike aircraft off the front end of a carrier.”…

In the Trumpian age, News is to Fake News like Movies are to Fake Movies, and The Good Ship Lollipop (a DC-2 airliner) happens during the Japanese renunciation of the Washington Naval Treaty and just as the Nazis discover the cost-effectiveness of dive bombing (Sturzkampfflugzeug). Similarly a call to return to a Reagan-era 600-ship navy is a surface navy fantasy ignoring the possibility of an opponent with 600 or less cruise missiles.

Iran is developing a submarine that could launch an anti-ship cruise missile designed to quickly sink an American warship operating in the Strait of Hormuz, according to a new assessment of Iranian naval capabilities published Wednesday by the U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence.

Citing Iranian press reports, the new ONI study – Iranian Naval Forces: A Tale of Two Navies – said development of Tehran’s new Besat-class of diesel-electric attack submarine will include an anti-ship cruise missile (ASCM) capability.…

The development of a submarine-launched anti-ship cruise missile would allow the IRIN a better chance of getting closer to a U.S. ship undetected than the IRCGN’s fleet of fast attack craft before firing a weapon, giving less time for the threatened ship to react to the attack.

For example, the Chinese YJ-18 sub-launched ASCM is a key worry for U.S. forces operating in the Western Pacific in the event of a full-blown war.…



Iran has launched its Fateh-class submarine, the largest it has ever built, into the Persian Gulf. It has a displacement of 600 tons, which means a significant improvement if compared to the Ghadir-class submarines, which had a displacement of 120 tons. Fateh is equipped with more sophisticated electronic and weaponry systems than the Ghadir-class submarines. The Submarine is bigger than the largest subs built by North Korea, which is believed to have helped Iran produce its 29-meter Ghadir midget subs. Iran has also announced the production of another new submarine class called ‘Besat’, which will have a displacement of 1200 tons.

Besat class submarine[2] previously known as Qaaem, Qaem, or Ghaaem is an Iranian designed class of submarines currently under construction. On 25 August 2008, Iranian defence minister Mostafa Mohammad-Najjar announced Iran had started building the first ship of the class: Qaaem. The submarine will be capable of carrying and firing various types of torpedoes and undersea missiles.[3][4]According to the Iranian Navy these submarines will weigh 1,200 tons.[5][6] Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari said that they would be equipped with torpedoes and naval mines. He also said: “the smart long-range Qaa’em submarine is also capable of carrying out both defensive and offensive operations”.[7] According to Global Security, a total of two of these Submarines will be built and completed by 2015.[8]

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6 Responses to USS Lolli-Trump … “We are going to start winning again!”

  1. People think carriers are the be-all and end-all. They are also Very Large Targets.

    • ann summers says:

      more interesting are the “letters of last resort” British ballistic sub commanders have in case of nuclear war with 4 options – retaliate, join the US if it’s still there, don’t retaliate, and use your own judgment

      • Nothing is official or declassified, but the word is that some torpedoes have small nuclear warheads. Just enough energy released to be several times larger than the amount of a high explosive warhead, but nothing like the Hiroshima or Nagasaki bombs. The old saying that, “Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades,” needs to be amended to include tactical nukes.

        A regular modern torpedo can break a destroyer in half, but an aircraft carrier or battleship is another matter altogether. This video is from a test by the Royal Australian Navy. HMAS Torrens was sunk in an exercise by HMAS Farncomb, firing a Mark-48 torpedo.

        • pete says:

          That type of warhead on a supercavitating torpedo could be a real problem.

          Diesel electric subs are still used all over the world because most countries are primarily defending their own coastline, not trying to project power much beyond their own territorial waters.
          They are also smaller and quieter than nuclear subs. Cheaper, too.

          Putting a Nimitz or a Ford class CVN in a tight water area such as the Persian Gulf or the Suez Canal is asking for trouble.

          The USS Trump, a yuge orange ship with small main guns and a very thin armor primarily used for attacking golf courses and for grounding small civil aircraft.
          Was originally built as a support ship for draining swamps but was found to be useless for this task.

          Extremely expensive to build and operate and has a confusing command structure.

  2. Marge Cullen says:

    lunacy and so wasteful the American way.

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